AWD 964/911 Bus

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Re: AWD 964/911 Bus

Post by john&hannah » Mon Apr 01, 2019 7:42 am

Thanks Mo. Let me know how the cable shifter goes as I will have to go down that route myself. Would love to see some pictures of the motor and gearbox in place.


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Re: AWD 964/911 Bus

Post by 67dubcab » Sat Apr 06, 2019 4:42 am

Glad to see you back at your project!
There is a 964 AWD powered split on the Speedhunter website if you have not seen it before, don't know if there is a build thread somewhere, would be nice to see as the feature they ran does not show any mechanicals.
I had to go custom cable shift on my mid-engine bus and it works pretty well, only had one missed shift early on.
I like the rocker arm front suspension, looks like you might have to go with a custom upper A arm to make it work which to me is better than the stock strut front suspension.
To me figuring it out is the hardest/funnest part.
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Re: AWD 964/911 Bus

Post by john&hannah » Sat Apr 06, 2019 6:34 am

Thanks Stephen. Just looked at the speedhunter site and shame no build pictures, I will try and track some down. Which cable system did you go for? Agree about the top wish bone for the front. I have ordered an adjustable A frame one and will then use the strut mounting pointing on the hub to build a top mount point off and then the coil over on top of that. Simples


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Re: AWD 964/911 Bus

Post by 67dubcab » Sun Apr 07, 2019 4:06 am

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Basically made my own, fabricated the trans-axle end and used a Porsche 996 cable shifter (around $75) not pretty but plan on covering it with a aluminum cowling.
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depending on how low you plan to go there may be room for a coil-over shock without the pivot mounting, I have a 15" shock with 5" of travel under the seat pan, though with your front drive shafts am guessing the issue is room front to back.
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Re: AWD 964/911 Bus

Post by mo » Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:15 am

What gearbox are you running Stephen that doesn’t look like a 915, is it a G50 ? Believe some of the gearboxes allow side cable fitment. Btw love the work to get the cables in !!
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Re: AWD 964/911 Bus

Post by john&hannah » Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:59 am

Love the fabrication, nice work. My G64 box has the gear select through the nose so another challenge.


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Re: AWD 964/911 Bus

Post by 67dubcab » Tue Apr 09, 2019 3:40 am

Hello Mo, it is a 944 transaxle as I am running the 3.2 mid-engine, it will make more sense if you check out my build thread, and thanks for the kind remarks!
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Re: AWD 964/911 Bus

Post by mo » Tue Apr 09, 2019 6:01 am

Had already checked your build bro its immense !? Loving all the fabrication work, for me thats where the real skill lays - ingenuity to problems. There is a company that makes a kit for those gearboxes with a forward facing gear shaft i’ll dig out the details and put them up.
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Re: AWD 964/911 Bus

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Re: AWD 964/911 Bus

Post by john&hannah » Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:04 pm

So got round to fabricating and welding the front sub frame mounting points today (well the off-side one at any rate)

I have lost count how many times i have put the front sub frame together to measure something to then have to take it apart to fabricate. Guess that's the game.

ImageFront sub frame mounting point by Duke of Boots1966, on Flickr

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Re: AWD 964/911 Bus

Post by john&hannah » Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:25 pm

so tonight was all about the nearside mount and i now have may front subframe rear mounting points :compress:

near side mount
ImageBack seat driver by Duke of Boots1966, on Flickr

Drive shaft and front trans in place
ImageBack seat driver by Duke of Boots1966, on Flickr

Offered up the new chassis panel to get a feel for clearance etc. I already knew i would be cutting a new panel up so thanks to C&C for the panel but it will be under the plasma cutter soon.
ImageBack seat driver by Duke of Boots1966, on Flickr

ImageBack seat driver by Duke of Boots1966, on Flickr

The gear change has been causing some head scratching until i offered up the original 964 torque tube and the solution hit me. Voice activated gear changes. All i need to do is teach the kids how to change gear and they can operate the gear stick whilst sat in the back which is where it currently pokes through the chassis. Genius! Yet to solve what i do when driving alone............

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Re: AWD 964/911 Bus

Post by type21f » Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:54 am

Lol..
My kids are 40 n 35.. Never have been able to get them to do a thing I say!
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Re: AWD 964/911 Bus

Post by john&hannah » Sun Apr 21, 2019 7:23 pm

So yesterday and today was all about the front chassis arms and trying to work out where they need to be in relation to the cab floor. Normally this would be easy as you would refer to your bus and take the measurements. Unfortunately for me my bus has already been 'renovated' which from what i can see was done like this -
Welder in Country B on phone to Bus owner in Country A - "whats this bus meant to look like when i have finished"?
Owner - 'I will send you over some photos'
Welder - ' Have not got internet, just describe it and i will have a go...........'

Thats about it really. Reminds me of this advert - https://youtu.be/No26JKQKZNE

Anyway this is where we have got to -

ImageFront chassis arms by Duke of Boots1966, on Flickr

ImageFront chassis arms by Duke of Boots1966, on Flickr

ImageFront chassis arms by Duke of Boots1966, on Flickr

ImageFront chassis arms by Duke of Boots1966, on Flickr

Even the 964 steering rack fits albeit swung through 180 degrees and a small amount of alloy cutting and tiging to be done to get it fixed in

ImageFront chassis arms by Duke of Boots1966, on Flickr

Offered up the inner leg panels and the tool box. This is going to be the tricky bit because as mentioned above my bus is bucking VW dimension convention!

ImageGarage phot by Duke of Boots1966, on Flickr

Gratuitous peeking out of garage shot

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Re: AWD 964/911 Bus

Post by mo » Sun Apr 21, 2019 7:32 pm

Great 👍🏾 pics and progress, get excited whenever im notified there’s more work been done 🤣🤣
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Re: AWD 964/911 Bus

Post by john&hannah » Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:28 pm

got the rear subframe in today and the front mounting points tagged on before the welder torch wire sheath snagged and stopped play for the day. Lots of measuring remeasuring and then a bit more measuring.

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ImageRear subframe by Duke of Boots1966, on Flickr

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