My Second VW !! mid life crisis ...The 1966 vert

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Re: My Second VW !! mid life crisis ...The 1966 vert

Post by vwJim » Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:25 am

markp wrote:
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Quality so far. Interested to see the lead loading results.

It will probably all end up on the floor Jim :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

:cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
Lol. Hope not.
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Re: My Second VW !! mid life crisis ...The 1966 vert

Post by markp » Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:50 pm

Interresting how Light this bady is ..... I did ll the lifting on my own and managed to get the roll around Dollie made

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Nice and HIGH thus making it easier to work on
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So next was to full strip the chassis :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
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Re: My Second VW !! mid life crisis ...The 1966 vert

Post by jayvanman » Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:46 pm

HOLY GUACAMOLE !

I was looking at the porn of the new pans and bits being made /welded and the there's just a big metal tube !

Loving the updates Mark, we know we can rely on you for a a quality thread.

Keep up the good work.

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Post by vwJim » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:09 am

Mark,

regarding AIR. I'd go for a controller system with height sensors.

There are three ways of doing it. No sensors at all, air pressure sensors and height sensors.

The tracking along with the camber and caster angles change on each corner as the suspension height changes. If you don't have any sensors, you'll never be able to put the Bug back to its driving height where the tracking etc is set correctly.

Pressure sensors remember the pressure required to hold the Bug at a set height. But, they can't allow for different loads. ie you'd be setting up the suspension when its empty, then put four passengers in and is heavier, so the default pressure has the Bug sitting lower, so your tracking is different to how you set it empty.

Where as height sensors remember the height, and put whatever pressure is required to maintain the same height regardless of load. So the suspension adjust is always bang on.

It'll cost more, but I've seen the difference between no sensors / pressure sensors / height sensors and is night and day.
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Re: My Second VW !! mid life crisis ...The 1966 vert

Post by type21f » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:59 am

Naming!
Got to be Ben...
Ben n Gerry...
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Post by type21f » Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:15 am

Whole thread of possibilities of names from Skate terms and Air..
Catching Air on the vert (ramp)..

Great to read/ see you happy with tools in your hands again..
Great ride for SWMBO..
Gerry looks happy in your extended man cave wing..
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Post by markp » Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:03 pm

vwJim wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:09 am
Mark,

regarding AIR. I'd go for a controller system with height sensors.

There are three ways of doing it. No sensors at all, air pressure sensors and height sensors.

The tracking along with the camber and caster angles change on each corner as the suspension height changes. If you don't have any sensors, you'll never be able to put the Bug back to its driving height where the tracking etc is set correctly.

Pressure sensors remember the pressure required to hold the Bug at a set height. But, they can't allow for different loads. ie you'd be setting up the suspension when its empty, then put four passengers in and is heavier, so the default pressure has the Bug sitting lower, so your tracking is different to how you set it empty.

Where as height sensors remember the height, and put whatever pressure is required to maintain the same height regardless of load. So the suspension adjust is always bang on.

It'll cost more, but I've seen the difference between no sensors / pressure sensors / height sensors and is night and day.

Fantastic feed back guys :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

Jim do you have any links to the systems your talking about .... ?

It sounds like I might be loving the hight sensor one ;-) :cheers: :cheers:

had an ok day on the vert today .... worked on him for three hours and then Mig wire ran out :oops: :oops: :oops:

School boy error as I normal carry a spare :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: But I'd used that and forgot to re-stock :( :roll:

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Re: My Second VW !! mid life crisis ...The 1966 vert

Post by markp » Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:06 pm

jayvanman wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:46 pm
HOLY GUACAMOLE !

I was looking at the porn of the new pans and bits being made /welded and the there's just a big metal tube !

Loving the updates Mark, we know we can rely on you for a a quality thread.

Keep up the good work.

Jason
I know Jason ... I have not quite got the hang of putting things back on him .... still stripping him down lol

Just one side left to weld on now and them strip a few more things off him and then his off to be sand blasted :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: and then painted shinnnnny Black or maybe another colour !!!!! oooooo theres a thought :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

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Re: My Second VW !! mid life crisis ...The 1966 vert

Post by jayvanman » Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:08 pm

Oh !

The colour can of worms !

Only on page 3 as well, lol.

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Post by type21f » Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:16 pm

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Re: My Second VW !! mid life crisis ...The 1966 vert

Post by mik+nik » Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:58 am

tracking/castor camber issues can be engineered out but it's a hell of a lot of work, if you convert to IRS and run the bags directly to the arms then the rear wheels move up and down almost straight, for the front it requires converting to rack and pinion steering with the steering imput rod triangulated to one side and a rod going from one ball joint to the oposite one that way as you rise and fall the wheels stay parallel(you end up notching out the frame head though once aproaching normal beetle height my chassis and shell only cost me £200 so chopping it up isn't an issue, if you want any pictures i will hapily send them you)so can be done but if you are going to be using sensors then set up geometry at driving height and live with a little tyre ware when you're 3 wheeling round the carpark. i just couldn't warant the expense as 3 projects on the go and workshop to pay for so mines going to be manual system. keep up the good work mark going great.:-)

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Post by vwJim » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:22 pm

Hi Mark.

No I don't have any links to current systems on the market. I remove far more kits than I install, so I don't follow who's brought out new versions. Next one to be removed is coming out in January.
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Post by JonnyCJ » Sun Dec 16, 2018 6:28 pm

Knock knock...

Evenin’ all - resto police ‘ere. We’re on the lookout for some pictures. Seems they’ve gone missing.

Can you help with our enquiries ?

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Re: My Second VW !! mid life crisis ...The 1966 vert

Post by markp » Mon Dec 17, 2018 8:12 pm

Yo

Resto police all over me !!! :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: I love the pressure :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Sorry for slow updates been having a few eye problems ... and those of you in the know .... Will know I only have one eye that works from birth

So I got or thought I got arck eye the other week ,,,, it came and went ... but a few days after I could feel dirt in my eye and thought it was just the arck eye ..... well it got better and everything was fine .... then I woke up with a red eye and thought WTF so decided to pop to hospital to get it checked out
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So the good new is theres nothing in my eye and they think I rubbed my eye when asleep and damged the repairing eyeball from the other weeks damage ..... Anyway I got drops to do every two hours and for two days and they think it will be fine :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: Fingers crossed :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:


Any way a little update on the beetle ..... started welding the pans in and they fit sweeeeeeeeeet
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Then I ran out of Mig wire 70% through the second pan ggggrrrrrrrr .... got the wire the next day :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: .. thank you BOC ... so all the pans are welded in :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
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So pans all done I stripped the spine all ready for the sand blasters and also the shell is 100% stripped so the next step is samnd blast then all :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: then eproxy primer everything then get the chassis / pans all painted ..... Could be normal and go BLACK or could be differant and go Red same as shell colour :compress: :compress:

so when stripping the chassis I found the beetle to be someones storage over the last few years ...... image him little face when the beetle ws gone and his was wanting his NUT's :lol: :lol: :lol:


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So I dont feel like I'll get much done on the beetle until after Xmas ..... I'll be waiting for the sandblasters to come get the spine and the shell


So we await for that day to happen


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