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Creative Air ride

Post by curbo » Sun Jan 26, 2014 1:42 pm

Anyone have Creatives air ride suspension in their bus, I know it's a bit dated but would like to hear of people's experiences

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Re: Creative Air ride

Post by readyboy61 » Sun Jan 26, 2014 7:33 pm

Mate had it and ditched it, had another friend with a different air ride and also.ditched it, air rides like crap
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Re: Creative Air ride

Post by vwJim » Mon Jan 27, 2014 8:13 am

Seen quite a few systems & they all made the bus ride badly.

And most of the owners removed it in the end.....
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Re: Creative Air ride

Post by lowdown dirty rat » Tue Jan 28, 2014 2:47 pm

Are you guys referring to the Creative setup or airrides in general?
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Re: Creative Air ride

Post by curbo » Tue Jan 28, 2014 2:53 pm

Creative setup

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Re: Creative Air ride

Post by vwJim » Tue Jan 28, 2014 3:48 pm

Old CE, current CE, other UK sold systems, US sold / installed systems.

All the same issues & ride quality.
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Re: Creative Air ride

Post by dombutler » Tue Jan 28, 2014 3:59 pm

vwJim wrote:Old CE, current CE, other UK sold systems, US sold / installed systems.

All the same issues & ride quality.
What Jim said.

One system I had, the whole front of the bus was supported on the bottom shock mount.
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Re: Creative Air ride

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Re: Creative Air ride

Post by lowdown dirty rat » Tue Jan 28, 2014 5:32 pm

dombutler wrote:
vwJim wrote:Old CE, current CE, other UK sold systems, US sold / installed systems.

All the same issues & ride quality.
What Jim said.
So you saying there is no good air ride system!
I've heard great things about airride ride quality. :?
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Re: Creative Air ride

Post by tufty65 » Tue Jan 28, 2014 5:56 pm

lowdown dirty rat wrote:
dombutler wrote:
vwJim wrote:Old CE, current CE, other UK sold systems, US sold / installed systems.

All the same issues & ride quality.
What Jim said.
So you saying there is no good air ride system!
I've heard great things about airride ride quality. :?
While it probably isn't as good as a stock bus suspension which on its own has it downsides my air ride on the rear is so much better than when I had just dropped the rear end a few splines and drove it round like that.
I still have the torsion bars in the rear with shocks but the bags when inflated to ride height give the rear a nice smooth ride compared to what is was like without.

Obviously this may not be the same for everyone's buses with or without torsion bars/different shocks/different types of spring plates etc but I have mine set up just right for me.

Bare air ride front beams seem to command big money these days.
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Re: Creative Air ride

Post by tufty65 » Tue Jan 28, 2014 5:59 pm

curbo wrote:Image
Slips right in :)
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Re: Creative Air ride

Post by flatbeat » Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:49 pm

curbo wrote:Image
Beautiful....proper bit of engineering :D
Love it. Fit it and enjoy :wink:
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Re: Creative Air ride

Post by White Van Man » Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:51 pm

Couldn't agree with you more Tufty "slips straight in ".Not sure what this "in" thing is :lol: Hurdle after hurdle with my MK1 Creative beam.And I have yet to drive it !
Mainly centered around no steering at all with the air bags in,ooh and the heater tube had to be removed as the beam wouldn't go high enough up in the body to get the bolts in.Plus some other bits,its well constructed tho.
Plus my biggest regret looking back....you have to remove the sleeves off the trailing arms,meaning I guess if I ever change my beam I need 4 replacement trailing arms too ?.

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Re: Creative Air ride

Post by tufty65 » Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:25 pm

White Van Man wrote:Couldn't agree with you more Tufty "slips straight in ".Not sure what this "in" thing is :lol: Hurdle after hurdle with my MK1 Creative beam.And I have yet to drive it !
Mainly centered around no steering at all with the air bags in,ooh and the heater tube had to be removed as the beam wouldn't go high enough up in the body to get the bolts in.Plus some other bits,its well constructed tho.
Plus my biggest regret looking back....you have to remove the sleeves off the trailing arms,meaning I guess if I ever change my beam I need 4 replacement trailing arms too ?.
Yep! They need clearencing on the under side by means of cutting away the heater tube etc.

I think you can get replacement sleeves made up to go back on your trailing arms if you ever take the beam off.

Didn't know about the restrictive steering do you have to put an extension piece on the idler pin arm thingy to make the steering turn more with the air bags in place?

I'd like an air ride front beam but the cost of just the beam put me off.
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Re: Creative Air ride

Post by Sisu » Wed Jan 29, 2014 1:47 pm

So just to be clear theride like .... :bounce: is this because the airbags are to small and over inflated causing a hard ride? Is it noisey or bouncy?
The CE system seems a bit of a SNAFU when they boasted starting from a blank sheet and it involves alot of fabrication?
What dampers are people using with the air ride system?

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