remot eoil filter location


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remot eoil filter location

Post by ernie » Fri May 15, 2015 1:44 pm

hi all,

Just wondering where people are locating their remote oil filters - inside the engine bay or underneath?

I have 1 oil pipe coming from the engine above the rear tin & the other is below the rear tin, so either way will need to cut through either the rear tin or the bus somewhere to get the pipes back together, depending on routing them away from the exhaust.

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Re: remot eoil filter location

Post by OP » Fri May 15, 2015 5:22 pm

Mines under the nearside battery tray. Both my in and out are under the tin so makes sense for me.
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Post by 8 8US » Fri May 15, 2015 7:25 pm

Mine too, also tinwear had a blanking hole that I cut out and shaped so I could get the pipe through the tin.
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Re: remot eoil filter location

Post by ernie » Sat May 16, 2015 9:05 am

Got any photo's Richard?

Which are you calling the y tinware?

Would be interested to see where you've gone through the tinware & how close the pipe runs to the exhaust.

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Post by type21f » Sat May 16, 2015 9:15 am

OK. Mine has AN fittings from out of the engine and to the filter body... I toyed with fitting 90 degree bends to get it up higher... See monkey knuts thread but my filter is a shallow body canister. Matt made a bracket up to mount it on and it does not protrude too far
The engine is a 1776 with full flow oil drilling and a high capacity pump. I specified it to be supplied with the remote filter body and braided stainless hoses and filter body supplied.
I am running heater boxes and have a Vintage speed exhaust this does come with insulation on some pipes. I bought some high temperature hose wrap.this is open down its length with velcro on each edge so you can pipe up everything and then get it into position.
I bought it in the standard length of one metre which was enough to do both pipes with about 120mm to spare.
All mine is under the tinware with oil temperature and pressure take offs in the remote filter line.
Matt installed it all for me and I think he was impressed with what I had specified...and his installs pipers and cable runs are a thing of beauty...
My only frustration was CPR fitted blue and red AN fittings when I wanted the engine to be all black....
Still nothing that an hour with small pot of black will not solve...
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Re: remot eoil filter location

Post by 8 8US » Sat May 16, 2015 10:26 am

ernie wrote:Got any photo's Richard?

Which are you calling the y tinware?

Would be interested to see where you've gone through the tinware & how close the pipe runs to the exhaust.

Thanks
Y tinware was a typo. I'll try and find a picture but it was a previous engine.

Pipe was close to exhaust but used a high temperature sleeve to protect them, worked fine.
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Re: remot eoil filter location

Post by ernie » Thu May 21, 2015 1:05 pm

ok, got my 1776 in now with everything connected, except for the oil filter!

Didn;t really want to mount it vertically under the battery tray as it will be visible below the bodywork & also concerned over it getting caught/damaged as the bus is reasonably low.

So, can I mount it horizontally?

If not, considering mounting it in the engine bay?

Here is a piccie of my oil filter..

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Got a Mann W719/5 filter (GSF jobbie).

Also, need to lengthen the pipes, so what hose do I need?

The current hose on the filter, as used by the previous owner of the engine) is 13mm id & 22 mm OD.

I have just bought some SAE J20 hose for the air cleaner, which is 13mm ID & 20mm OD - if you search for SAE J20 on ebay, the desriptions suggest that you can use this hose for oil pipes, however it is thinner wall than the 22mm OD stuff already on there and kinks a bit easer.

Any suggestions? Didn't really want to got to the expense/trouble of fitting hydraulic hoses and changing the fittings, etc.

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Re: remot eoil filter location

Post by 8 8US » Thu May 21, 2015 1:24 pm

Mine was mounted horizontally underneath the bottle/battery tray and attached using 3 nut/bolts through the tray.

I had hydraulic hose fitted on mine, jubilee clips on those barbs don't seem very safe, you'll soon pump 3 litres of oil onto the road if one of them pops off.......
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Re: remot eoil filter location

Post by MarkFer » Thu May 21, 2015 2:43 pm

If it's mounted horizontally how do you pre-fill with oil (without spilling) when doing an oil change?

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Post by 8 8US » Thu May 21, 2015 3:05 pm

Fill it before you attach it to the head, then bolt it up to the battery/gas bottle tray.
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Re: remot eoil filter location

Post by ernie » Thu May 21, 2015 8:14 pm

Does the oil flow with sufficient pressure to pop one of the clips off?

i assume hydraulic hoses would have to be made up to measure & the ends changed both in the oil filter housing & the engine?

Must admit, i've never pre-filled an oil filter on any car i've ever had - I just put the filter on empty then run the engine up for a few mins then check the oil level again.

does the filter still work ok horizontally and would it be any more susceptible to leaks?

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Re: remot eoil filter location

Post by type21f » Fri May 22, 2015 5:05 am

Words added to my pictures... above. ..Can expect up to 70psi when cold..
On start up this can be a problem and why I went for AN fittings and braided hose... Any hydraulics company will make them up for you...
There is a good one right next door to M7 that posters have used...
Several people have studied my pipe runs..... and asked questions. OEEEER...

First run out my first check was how the oil pressure ran, how hot the oil got and what the CHT gauge ran at, how hot the thermo insulated valence we had to bend a little for clearance got above the vintage speed exhaust and how the hose runs had got on... All seems fine.
Pleased I got a CHT gauge... amazed how cool it runs when in stop start traffic...when water cooled engines suffer...
VW fan and tinware design works really well..
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Re: remot eoil filter location

Post by ernie » Fri May 22, 2015 8:28 am

cheers guys - never used hydraulic fittings before, so excuse my ignorance & obvious questions...

I assume I would need to take the unions our of the engine block and take them down to a hydraulic specialist along with the remote filter assembly and pipe length and they will make up the hoses & supply me with new fittings to screw into the block & filter housing?

Also, am I ok to mount it horizontally as this will alter the pipe length.

thanks again.

ps - Whereabouts in the midlands are you guys - wouldn't mind taking a look for some inspiration at some point if you are relatively close (I am in Solihull).

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Post by 8 8US » Fri May 22, 2015 9:03 am

ernie wrote:cheers guys - never used hydraulic fittings before, so excuse my ignorance & obvious questions...

I assume I would need to take the unions our of the engine block and take them down to a hydraulic specialist along with the remote filter assembly and pipe length and they will make up the hoses & supply me with new fittings to screw into the block & filter housing?

Also, am I ok to mount it horizontally as this will alter the pipe length.

thanks again.

ps - Whereabouts in the midlands are you guys - wouldn't mind taking a look for some inspiration at some point if you are relatively close (I am in Solihull).
Yes take the fittings to a specialist, they will need to know thread and size of the fitting and the length of the hose, I had 90deg bends on the one end and straights on the other as that worked with the fittings I had on the remote filter head and block.

Mine was mounted horizontally, you must fill it before attaching and bolting up, you do not want an airlock or it taking 20 minutes to build oil pressure.

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Re: remot eoil filter location

Post by yachtybugger » Wed May 27, 2015 2:56 pm

I've got mine mounted horizontally a la 8 8US.

Protected by the rear wheel arch tub and no ground clearance issues.

Yes, for a drip free oil/filter change you have to unbolt it, but oil change can also be done with it in situ, with care ;-)

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