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Wood headliner finished :-D

Post by OP » Sat May 10, 2014 10:34 am

I'm looking at fitting a westie style headliner but have come across a problem. The panel for the centre section needs to be 49" between the roof supports but the only sheet wood I can find in 8'x4' making the the panel an inch short. The lack of the inch means it'll not sit agains the bar :/ How have people fitted them???

I see you can buy a kit on Fleabay but it has a middle strip which looks ugly but I guess people have come across this problem before.

Anyone selling an OG Westie roof liner?? ;)
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Post by mango-westy » Sat May 10, 2014 6:30 pm

This any good to you taken out of a so-23 westy.

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Post by dave409787 » Sat May 10, 2014 9:05 pm

8 x 4 sheets always come oversized.

Usually about 1240mm, which is marginally under 49 inches but allows you to secure it to both supports.

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Was very satisfying when it all popped in place perfectly... measure 200 times, cut once! :wink:
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Post by OP » Sat May 10, 2014 10:58 pm

Cheers for the offer mango-westy, will bare it in mind :D

That is how I want it to look Dave, spot on 8) Winging a PM over with some questions if you don't mind?
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Post by dave409787 » Sun May 11, 2014 4:29 pm

Hi

Had a lot of pm's regarding this, so thought I'd cover the topic in this thread for others who are interested.

Let me know if I miss anything.

I used hardboard, shiney side down. Had to shave this thinner at the edges with a belt sander to slot it in above the cab area, but it's like cheese so very easy to shape. It also flexes evenly in every direction as has no grain like ply. This is good for the front and back. I also used it because my local merchants was giving it away.

There is no battens behind. I covered the whole roof and all panels with flash band, then double sided tape and pushed 25mm kingspan TP10 into the void. This finished flush with all the factory beams/bars etc. I scored the back (panel side) of the insulation to follow the contours of the panel, like they cut melon in fancy restaurants, and then pushed it against the double sided tape. This meant the whole interior was lined with 25mm kingspan to the same shape as the original.

Afraid I don't still have measurements, but I used thin strips of hardboard, say 150mm wide, started with the widest point and did trial and error. This is actually far easier to measure than I thought. Just push the tape measure into the gutter and bend it to follow the roof, use the other hand to keep your tape in the correct spot. You have tolerance at either end where the gutter hides the board, so you don't need to be perfect.

Now the fun bit... You'll need help. Someone who is good in high stress situations. Someone who can hold there arms above their head longer than they'd like!

I did the front cab panels first, alone is fine, and get them slotted in nice and tight with a clean back edge that runs level with the back of the he heater duct.
Then the middle. A full width sheet is required, which is good, less cutting.
Then get you width sorted. Then push the far side into the gutter, let the middle bow down, and one person at front, one at back, tuck the other side into the gutter above cargo door. Ensure it is pushed tight up to the cab panels on both sides, so you get a clean joint, then one person hold and one get in through cargo door, then the board and push up. It does an S shape and you think... How will this ever fit, then it pops in place. It doesn't need any support as it is so tight and holds its shape, but the strips keep edges clean, and I have used SS screws with button poppers on, so I can secure a curtain between my cab and back at this point too.

Then same for the back.

Metal strips are 10mm x 1.5mm anodized alu from B&Q.

I then masked everything up and sprayed the whole thing with farrow and ball interior paint, then fitted alu strips.

Worked out well, cost me about £12, but I wouldn't want to do it again!
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Post by type21f » Sun May 11, 2014 8:39 pm

Excellent....just what I wanted to know!

What a great finish for such a low outlay!

That looks really good..
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Post by Byron Bamboo » Mon May 12, 2014 10:19 pm

You can buy sheets of ply in 1550 x 3050mm from most sheet panel specialists like silvermans and W T Edens


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Post by type21f » Mon May 12, 2014 10:31 pm

Err bp (Baltic pine) is available in 4mm 1525 x 3050 and 1525 x 1525 ....the old 5' square size. Last time I went to the Great Barr saw mills they had some in stock with very nice grain. I was tempted to buy some but I might have looked daft trying to carry it home!...
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Post by OP » Mon May 12, 2014 11:00 pm

type21f wrote:Err bp (Baltic pine) is available in 4mm 1525 x 3050 and 1525 x 1525 ....the old 5' square size. Last time I went to the Great Barr saw mills they had some in stock with very nice grain. I was tempted to buy some but I might have looked daft trying to carry it home!...

4mm pine would be fun to fit 8O You need 3mm aircraft birch for the flex ;) Your local Travis Perkins will sell it in 1525 squares. Then 1.5mm for the cab bits....That's what I'm looking at doing next weekend 8)
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Post by type21f » Wed May 14, 2014 6:51 pm

err had no idea of the required thickness...thanks
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Post by matt d » Wed May 14, 2014 6:57 pm

Has anyone tried veneering hardboard? Not sure if it's possible. :?
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Post by Max Last » Wed May 14, 2014 7:09 pm

2 or 3mm mdf for me,can't remember which, after a couple of years of the I got bored with the look of it so glued bamboo veneer to it, then ripped bamboo canes down the centre to use a cover strips for the joints. I used 25mm jablite insulation but only because we had that I site at the time rather than kingspan.Image
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Post by OP » Fri May 16, 2014 7:11 pm

Anyone got the measurements?? I've tried to use the crazy american measurements on The Samba but it's completely confused me :lol:

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Post by JacksHere » Fri May 16, 2014 7:24 pm

That looks like the pic/measurements i used, i dont recall them being perfect though, but our bus has had work to the roof, so maybe they are? I would cut some test strips using those widths and test pop them in place... It will give you some practice for getting the sheets in the channels at the sides too.
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Post by OP » Fri May 16, 2014 7:56 pm

Right got all the Millimeter measurements 8) What sort of a measurement is 4.06'??? :lol: Of to the wood yard on Monday to get my sheets cut, will post pictures and 'proper' measurements then ;)
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