Cutting and adding a poptop to a solid roof?

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Cutting and adding a poptop to a solid roof?

Post by m1xmag » Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:31 am

Hopefully be completing the deal on a 67 sportsmobile from the states soon but unusually it doesnt have a poptop (guess not everyone wanted one) and was wondering if there is any difference to the roof's that have pop-up tops and those that dont?

i.e. could I retro add a pop top to my camper too without any extra strengthening, obviously its not just cutting a hole in the roof....... or is it?

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Re: Cutting and adding a poptop to a solid roof?

Post by simons121 » Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:57 am

Dont do it!!!

I have a sportsmobile - look at my thread in rides/ projects

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=54378

We have a "chimney"!! lol :roll: :roll:


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Re: Cutting and adding a poptop to a solid roof?

Post by m1xmag » Tue Jun 09, 2009 12:02 pm

Yeah noticed the chimney on yours before, I was after a full on westy style top - maybe should just make do and enjoy being a rare sportsmobile without a pop or even chimney... as dont think mine even has a chimney.

You got many pictures of your interior (other than in your thread)?

.. as trying to get as much info as possible already got the brochures...... intent on getting it oem as possible with a few modern touches obviously!
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Re: Cutting and adding a poptop to a solid roof?

Post by JeffB » Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:45 am

I've cut a hole in my bus to add a Paris sunroof. Not quite the same but I needed to add strengthening.

see www.dubbylives.webs.com

Shaping the box tube took a fair while but quicker once we did the first one. It's not fully fixed yet but it's still quite strong.

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Re: Cutting and adding a poptop to a solid roof?

Post by somegeezer » Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:23 pm

I fitted a pop top to mine, everybody said don't, but I would not have used the bus as much as I have if it was still a tin top. In the end it is your bus. You will need to stiffen it up though. I welded a box section frame in, and still intend to fit belly pans.

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Re: Cutting and adding a poptop to a solid roof?

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Post by somegeezer » Sun Dec 27, 2009 10:08 pm

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Re: Cutting and adding a poptop to a solid roof?

Post by tonuptony » Mon Dec 28, 2009 6:24 pm

nice job - good to see someone just going for it -
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Post by somegeezer » Fri Jan 08, 2010 3:08 pm

nice job - good to see someone just going for it -
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Re: Cutting and adding a poptop to a solid roof?

Post by Fla » Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:55 am

I just got my brother-in-law Martin Hall (hallie92) to convert my bus to a walkthrough dormobile.
He is doing another dormobile conversion at the moment.

The dormobile top was more involved than the walkthrough conversion believe it or not!

We sourced a bay dormobile roof cap and stripped and restored it replacing all rubbers and a few parts.
The strengthing bars and parts came direct from Dormobile who luckily were a couple of miles down the road :cheers:
We fitted belly pans for the required strengthening and to say I am pleased with how it has all come out
would be a massive understatement :bounce:

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I think I'll take the sled out today :wink:

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I am just about to start fitting out the interior now I have my insulation. Similar to a westy SO42 setup a smaller
cupboard rather than the icebox all done in reclaimed pine. Already got the pine floorboards in :roll:

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Re: Cutting and adding a poptop to a solid roof?

Post by somegeezer » Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:02 am

Nice job, a Dormobile top was what I wanted but could not find one at the time. Was you top from a RHD bay?

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Re: Cutting and adding a poptop to a solid roof?

Post by Fla » Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:19 pm

somegeezer wrote:Nice job, a Dormobile top was what I wanted but could not find one at the time. Was you top from a RHD bay?
Cheers lad and you were right, dormobile cap sourced from RHD Bay. Not too much profile work needed to get the top to fit nice.
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Re: Cutting and adding a poptop to a solid roof?

Post by m1xmag » Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:25 am

Nothing quite like bringing an old post back to life!

After hiring a bay window with original Westy interior and pop top, been thinking more and more about adding a similar Sportsmobile/Westy pop as we found having a pop so useful - especially so for me as 6ft 2 - and adds more functionality to the interior.

There would be strengthening work required and you can buy all but the actual fibreglass/plastic pop so that would be the difficulty.

The intention would definitely be to get measurements from a similar Westy to locate the opening - but still a little unsure whether to go ahead.

Its not as if the van is finished yet so what better time to make such a major mod.

If anyone has any thoughts or can see any additional problems, please point them out :)
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Re: Cutting and adding a poptop to a solid roof?

Post by the bus driver » Wed Jul 04, 2012 12:25 pm

m1xmag wrote: There would be strengthening work required
Why?? Just cut the hole, An so42 has no belly pans neither extra strengthening supports..

My previous walk through so42 had a hacked pop top.. no additional strengthening supports or whatsoever were installed, it drove just as good as before.. Buses are much stronger than you think ..

They only thing you would want to fit (not necessarily) is a lip (like OG) around the hole so water doesn't run in your bus..
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Re: Cutting and adding a poptop to a solid roof?

Post by Dr Grub » Wed Jul 04, 2012 7:21 pm

Yup, as an owner of an SO42 I can confirm that there is no extra strengthening added as a result of the pop top being fitted. No belly pans or roof braces , just a hole, roof, springs and steel supports for the roof!

The Dormobile roof is a beast and the size of hole it needs to fit would cause some strength to be lost hence why they built a steel frame and added extra strength to the roof of the van when they were fitted by the factory, plus of course the belly pans as well.

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