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Hello

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:10 pm
by Brian J
A wannabee just saying hello :)

Re: Hello

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:18 pm
by Jenni
hello back :hello2:

Re: Hello

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:52 pm
by vwJim
Evening, welcome aboard.

Re: Hello

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 9:13 am
by orb
Hello and Welcome - What are your plans to achieve your want?

Orb

Re: Hello

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:11 am
by Brian J
Thanks everyone 8) , dont really know what i want only that i want to run 18 sec and under , 15s sound nice :D .Brought the bus in from CA 3years ago MOTed it straight away ,trailered it home put it in the garage and shut the door , so i have finally decided to register it get a quick motor built (by others)and drag race it

So will be asking lots of questions :wink:

Re: Hello

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 1:04 pm
by orb
Well you ask away, there's always somene on here willing to help.

As a guide you'll need about 120bhp to run a sub 18 and about 175+hp to run in the 15's

I started on the same journey in 2004 and you can read about the different stages here
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=4021

Cheers

Orb

Re: Hello

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 3:00 pm
by Brian J
Thanks orb ,

I need an engine builder in the cheshire area do you no of any , going to see one on Sat (think his name is ''Gee'' whitchurch way) but need 2 estimates
I know nothing about drag racing VWs so dont know whats needed
this is wot i think i need

2332 cc FI
Rancho box
Disc Brakes
Skilled engine builder
plenty of dust 8O

Do you think i could get this done for £1500.00

















only kidding , :D 6-8K what do you think????????


Bri

Re: Hello

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 3:19 pm
by orb
No worries
Ha - I thought we had a dreamer there at £1500!
I've put my best estimates next to your item, none of which include fitting but in short that should get you there but there are always things you forget that add to the cost (extra gearbox mounts, oil cooler and lines, breather system, steering upgrades etc.) - it'll make a big difference if you're able to do some of the fitting work yourself.

Orb

Brian J wrote:Thanks orb ,

I need an engine builder in the cheshire area do you no of any , going to see one on Sat (think his name is ''Gee'' whitchurch way) but need 2 estimates
I know nothing about drag racing VWs so dont know whats needed
this is wot i think i need - I don't know any engine builders your way but put a separate thread up someone might be able to help

2332 cc FI £6-7k on carbsand an extra £1500-2k if you go FI
Rancho boxCirca £1000
Disc Brakes£7-800
Skilled engine builder
plenty of dust 8O

Do you think i could get this done for £1500.00

















only kidding , :D 6-8K what do you think????????


Bri

Re: Hello

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 3:32 pm
by Brian J
8O 10-12k 8O I know speed costs big money , I was hoping to get it done for around 8K looks like there is no chance :(

Re: Hello

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 4:29 pm
by richierich37
Brian J wrote:8O 10-12k 8O I know speed costs big money , I was hoping to get it done for around 8K looks like there is no chance :(
hello fella,

not to put a downer on the cards :twisted: ...............

also take into consideration that things break so always have a few quid tucked away to sort it! :lol:

have fun..............

Re: Hello

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 4:46 pm
by orb
Brian J wrote:8O 10-12k 8O I know speed costs big money , I was hoping to get it done for around 8K looks like there is no chance :(

There is a chance, don't be downhearted brother :D

Those figures are based on building a high spec 2332 making 185-190bhp - that in itself will be £6.5-7.5k dependng on what bits you use - but you don't need to go that route.

There are often turnkey motors for sale much cheaper or kits that would just need building - for example
http://www.volkszone.com/VZi/showthread.php?t=612562

This for example would push you into the 15's - http://www.volkszone.com/VZi/showthread.php?t=609420

I bought my first BWA motor from Paul Utting for £3500, it had already put his bus into the BWA, gave me my first sub 18 run and has since been sold and pushed another bus under 18 secs so it is possible to do it much cheaper and be reliable too.

You don't have to have a box built, some people run them on a stock box but you'll probably start unwinding 3rd and 4th gear if you drive it hard - a new rancho may be a grand but they do come up for sale now and then - for example - http://www.volkszone.com/VZi/showthread.php?t=607776

I bought one that had done 1500 miles for £700 (Cogbox built :wink: )

Another route to look at which was a really cheap way of dong it a couple of years ago but for obvious reasons has become more expensive is to have an engine built in the states - maybe try dropping a line to Powerhaus in the US and see what your options are http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/ ... ?id=550433
I know he's very helpful and a friend had a top notch turbo engine built that has pushed his bus into the 14's for what would be the equivalent of approx £7k today - that's Turbo and injection and about 250+bhp 8O
I'm sure they could build a stout motor within your budget.

Orb

Re: Hello

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:23 pm
by Brian J
:twisted: just wrote a long reply and it bloody disapeared :evil:

Re: Hello

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:30 pm
by pye1man
Brian J wrote:Thanks orb ,

I need an engine builder in the cheshire area do you no of any , going to see one on Sat (think his name is ''Gee'' whitchurch way) but need 2 estimates
I know nothing about drag racing VWs so dont know whats needed
this is wot i think i need

2332 cc FI
Rancho box
Disc Brakes
Skilled engine builder
plenty of dust 8O

Do you think i could get this done for £1500.00



only kidding , :D 6-8K what do you think????????


Bri

Hi Brian,

If your after an engine and gearbox I would recommend without reserve John Walket in Stoke on Trent, he's not on here but you'll find him on VZI "63 ragtop", he builds and races his own motors and has built countless "bus" engines including mine for one!


Best of luck in what ever you do and see you on the strip :-)


Cheers


Andy

Re: Hello

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:38 pm
by Brian J
thanks guys for the help

I dont want to go the turbo route ,carb or would like FI if it is worth the extra cost
I also do some drag racing at the mo so i know the cost of going fast ,the breakages and the addiction to getting that extra 10th :twisted:

my main concern is finding the correct company to do the work at the right price,
do you think the engine parts on vzi would suit my needs? box has sold :evil: would rather pay a little extra now to get a 15 than more money later

Re: Hello

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:41 pm
by Brian J
pye1man wrote:
Brian J wrote:Thanks orb ,

I need an engine builder in the cheshire area do you no of any , going to see one on Sat (think his name is ''Gee'' whitchurch way) but need 2 estimates
I know nothing about drag racing VWs so dont know whats needed
this is wot i think i need

2332 cc FI
Rancho box
Disc Brakes
Skilled engine builder
plenty of dust 8O

Do you think i could get this done for £1500.00



only kidding , :D 6-8K what do you think????????


Bri

Hi Brian,

If your after an engine and gearbox I would recommend without reserve John Walket in Stoke on Trent, he's not on here but you'll find him on VZI "63 ragtop", he builds and races his own motors and has built countless "bus" engines including mine for one!


Best of luck in what ever you do and see you on the strip :-)


Cheers


Andy
thanks for that will get in touch with him :cheers:

is he the guy with the yellow bug ?????