speed limit for vans part 2

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speed limit for vans part 2

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Tried to find the original thread for this but couldn't so started a new one...
Spoke to a friend "in the know" (traffic police 22yrs) and the definitive answer is:
If it is under 2 tons then normal car speed limits apply
If its over 2 tons then single carriagway national speed limit(country lanes for example) its 50mph NOT 60mph and the same for dual carriagway with central reservation or dividing barrier. Motorway is still 70mph.
A converted panel van is still classed as a van as it remains what it was originally manufactured as.
The grey area concerns things like Ford Transit Connect vans a s some of them are 2 tons and sone are 2 and a quarter ton.
So if you run a panel van that's had windows put in and made into a camper its still a panel van as far as the Road Traffic Act is concerned.

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I think you mean 60mph for dual carriage ways (rather than 70 for a car)
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50mph on a duel is only for vehicles over 7.5 ton.

under 7.5 it is 60mph...

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I always thought it was determined by the size of your original motor ...

1200 - 50ish
1500's - 60ish
1600's - 70 if downhill section included
2 litre, same as 1600 but with worse fuel economy (lol)

Then the monied section ...

Enter your own ...



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Note if registered as a motor caravan and under 3050kg then car speed limits apply. (mine is registered as a motor caravan)
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shambly wrote:I think you mean 60mph for dual carriage ways (rather than 70 for a car)
Yup, just read it back and realised that.
However, it matters not that your van is registered as a camper/motor caravan. If it was originally manufactured as a panel van it will, for the purpose of this legislation, still be classed as a van.

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e m p i wrote: However, it matters not that your van is registered as a camper/motor caravan. If it was originally manufactured as a panel van it will, for the purpose of this legislation, still be classed as a van.
That isn't correct, if it is reregistered with the DVLA as a motor caravan then car speed limits apply as it is classified as a passenger vehicle.

How would the police be able to tell the difference between a Reimo converted (from new) T5 and a Reimo converted used panel van if the DVLA classified both as a motor caravan?
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Normally what I can get away with... :roll:

Picked up my last 3 points in the camper.

Kids - it's not big and it's not clever but I did feel like laminating the ticket just to prove it could go that fast!!
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I was recently on the M40 and clocked (not using a splitty speedo ) a Splitty at 118mph, it was all legal .........he was in a hurry :wink:

BUT your right, its not big, its not clever so don't copy this kids (comment added for a balnced opinion) :wink:
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just to stray and defer further how strict to people finding the police on seat belts as iv never been hassled although i fit them and i know if they werent there orig you dnt have to wear (if they arnt fitted ) but still i get more smiles then hassle ??"?!!?!?!
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e m p i wrote: The grey area concerns things like Ford Transit Connect vans a s some of them are 2 tons and sone are 2 and a quarter ton.

Shalom, Lee
whats your transit connect full of......lead? :D
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paul_f wrote:
e m p i wrote: However, it matters not that your van is registered as a camper/motor caravan. If it was originally manufactured as a panel van it will, for the purpose of this legislation, still be classed as a van.
That isn't correct, if it is reregistered with the DVLA as a motor caravan then car speed limits apply as it is classified as a passenger vehicle.

How would the police be able to tell the difference between a Reimo converted (from new) T5 and a Reimo converted used panel van if the DVLA classified both as a motor caravan?
Nope doesn't make any difference what its registered as for the purpose of the relevant legislation. I did query this with another 2 traffic peeps and they conformed that its classed as what it was manufactured as, intended for or adapted to, in that order. The first being "manufactured" so that's what counts. As for how they'd ever know/tell I have absolutly no idea :lol:
S'pose its one of those things that they don't enforce to strictly, ike A-framing a car. Unles the car has been disabled or has broken down(emergency requirement) then its illegal to A-frame a car unless it has a braking system like a braked trailer because the minute you put it on the A-frame it ceases to become a "car" and becomes a "trailer" and so the rule relating to trailers now apply ie. over a certain weight(which it will be) needs to be braked. So most of those people that A-frame their race cars to Santa Pod etc are actually doing so illegally.

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how much does an unladen panel van weigh ???
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maddison wrote:how much does an unladen panel van weigh ???
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